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To: "Selwyn Johnston - Leichhardt Independent 2007" <ind@gil.com.au>
Subject: Fw: For your information Michael nothing changes
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To: robert abbott=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: Fw: For your information Michael nothing changes



----- Original Message -----=20
From:=20
To: BIG MICK=20
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:23 PM
Subject: For your information Michael nothing changes


AUSTRALIAN AMATEUR BOXING IS CREATING PARTITION BETWEEN ALL AUSTRALIAN =
AMATEUR BOXERS

With the exception of Australia, Amateur boxing Internationally is =
controlled by one organisation or body.=20

Amateur boxers in Far North Queensland are penalised even more because =
of conflicts and jealousies going back decades that exist between the =
different boxing organisations and associations.

=20

Mr GLACHAN MP Albury states..

=20

Mr GLACHAN (Albury) [6.33]: I wish to speak on behalf of a young =
constituent of mine, Mr Caine Melbourne, a promising young amateur boxer =
who lives in the Albury electorate. Some time ago as a member of the =
National Boxing League he took part in tournaments sponsored by that =
league.

But realising that the Amateur Boxing Association was the only: =
organisation that had the right to select national representatives, he =
decided he would switch to that Association because he felt he might =
have had a chance to represent Australia at a future Commonwealth Games =
or perhaps Olympics.

=20

Being ambitious and fairly well thought of in amateur boxing in the =
Albury district, he decided that would be the best course for him. =
However, some time ago Caine, while working at a hotel known as the =
Ettamogah Pub, was told by his employer there that he was having staged =
at the hotel a boxing tournament sponsored by that National Boxing =
League.=20

As at that time Caine was a member of that league, he agreed to take =
part in the tournament, and subsequently he joined the Australian =
Amateur Boxing Association.

He realised he had a bit of a problem, but to keep faith with his =
employer - he felt it important that he do that, especially as his =
employer had gone to a lot of trouble to advertise the tournament and =
advertise locally that Caine Melbourne would be taking part in it - =
Caine felt he should keep the promise he made and take part in that =
tournament.

=20

He did exactly that, but was then told by the Australian Amateur Boxing =
Association that he was no longer considered to be part of its =
organisation and would not be allowed to compete in any of its =
tournaments. This meant that the opportunity for him to represent =
Australia in the future in international competitions would be cut off.

=20

Caine was very upset about that. His father wrote to the Secretary of =
the Australian Amateur Boxing Association, Mr Arthur Tunstall, pointing =
out the circumstances involved, that Caine was a young man who had made =
a mistake and misjudged the situation, that he realised now that he =
should never as a member of the Australian Amateur Boxing Association =
have taken part in an Australian Boxing League tournament, and that he =
regretted it.

The letter pointed out the circumstances of his obligation to his =
employer, given the advertising that had been undertaken. His father =
received a reply saying simply that the board had considered his excuse =
but felt it really was not relevant, and that Caine would no longer be =
considered by the Amateur Boxing Association.

=20

Caine's father has attempted to ring the association on a number of =
occasions but cannot get a hearing. One of the reasons for that could =
have been, of course, that Arthur Tunstall was overseas and was not =
available.

But Caine's problem has caused a lot of concern in the Albury area and =
has been the subject of speculation in the local media about his =
possibilities of representing Australia and the fact that this avenue is =
now closed to him. I appeal to the Minister for Sport and Recreation.=20

I spoke to her early this morning and informed her that I would raise =
this matter. I wonder whether she could move on behalf of all the young =
amateur boxers in this country who want to be involved in the fine sport =
of amateur boxing,=20

who do not understand the politics and jealousies involved, who might =
initially become involved with the Amateur Boxing League only to find =
their opportunity to represent Australia is totally cut off.

I wonder whether the Minister might be able to make some effort on =
behalf of my constituent, Caine Melbourne, and also on behalf of all =
those young Australians who would just like the opportunity to represent =
their country in the future. I know that is quite a task and that many =
have tried in the past, but the Australian Amateur Boxing Association is =
very fixed in its views and will not give an opportunity to anyone who =
belongs to the league.=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

Such jealousy is very stupid. I wonder whether they could work together =
for the sake of young people in the sport. I hope the Minister might be =
able to help in some way in this regard.

=20

Mr AMERY (Mount Druitt - Minister for Agriculture) [6.37]:=20

I will make sure that the representations made by the honourable member =
for Albury are passed on to the Minister for Sport and Recreation.

The issue he has raised comes as somewhat of a surprise to me, that =
jealousies exist between boxing organisations and associations.

Such jealousies have plagued the sport overseas in the professional =
arena.

A former Minister for Sport, Michael Cleary, brought in legislation to =
clear up the New South Wales boxing associations.

Debate on that legislation expressed the hope of resolving much of the =
jealousy and rivalry that unfortunately afflicts boxing at both amateur =
and professional levels.

=20

I hope that the Minister will be able to negotiate on behalf of the =
honourable member's constituent.

=20

It is sad that a person's chance to represent Australia and bring home a =
medal for the sake of our country could be hampered by rivalry or =
jealousy between boxing organisations.

=20

The honourable member has made an excellent point.

=20

I am sure the Minister will do all she can to assist in this matter.

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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dboxa_01@live.com.au=20
href=3D"mailto:boxa_01@live.com.au">robert abbott</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2008 10:24 PM</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmichael-goldsmith@hotmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:michael-goldsmith@hotmail.com">BIG MICK</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2008 10:23 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> For your information Michael nothing =
changes</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">AUSTRALIAN AMATEUR BOXING =
IS=20
CREATING PARTITION BETWEEN ALL AUSTRALIAN AMATEUR =
BOXERS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">With the exception of =
Australia, <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Amateur boxing =
Internationally</B> is=20
controlled by one organisation or body. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Amateur boxers in Far =
North=20
Queensland are penalised even more because of conflicts and jealousies =
going=20
back decades that exist between the different boxing organisations and=20
associations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Mr GLACHAN MP Albury=20
states..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Mr GLACHAN (Albury) =
[6.33]: I wish=20
to speak on behalf of a young constituent of mine, Mr Caine Melbourne, a =

promising young amateur boxer who lives in the Albury electorate. Some =
time ago=20
as a member of the National Boxing League he took part in tournaments =
sponsored=20
by that league.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">But realising that the =
Amateur=20
Boxing Association was the only: organisation that had the right to =
select <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>national =
representatives,</U></B> he=20
decided he would switch to that Association because he felt he might =
have had a=20
chance to represent Australia at a future <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>Commonwealth Games</U></B> or =
perhaps <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal"><U>Olympics.<o:p></o:p></U></B></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Being ambitious and =
fairly well=20
thought of in amateur boxing in the Albury district, he decided that =
would be=20
the best course for him. However, some time ago Caine, while working at =
a hotel=20
known as the Ettamogah Pub, was told by his employer there that he was =
having=20
staged at the hotel a boxing tournament sponsored by that <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>National Boxing =
League.</U></B>=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">As at that time Caine was =
a member=20
of that league, he agreed to take part in the tournament, and =
subsequently he=20
joined the <B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>Australian =
Amateur Boxing=20
Association.</U></B><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">He realised he had a bit =
of a=20
problem, but to keep faith with his employer - he felt it important that =
he do=20
that, especially as his employer had gone to a lot of trouble to =
advertise the=20
tournament and advertise locally that Caine Melbourne would be taking =
part in it=20
- Caine felt he should keep the promise he made and take part in that=20
tournament.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">He did exactly that, but =
was then=20
told by the <B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>Australian =
Amateur Boxing=20
Association</U></B> that he was no longer considered to be part of its=20
organisation <B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>and would not =
be allowed=20
to compete</U></B> in any of its tournaments. This meant that the =
opportunity=20
for him to represent<B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>=20
Australia</U></B> in the future in international competitions would =
<U>be cut=20
off.</U><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Caine was very upset =
about that.=20
His father wrote to the Secretary of the Australian Amateur Boxing =
Association,=20
Mr Arthur Tunstall, pointing out the circumstances involved, that Caine =
was a=20
young man who had made a mistake and misjudged the situation, that he =
realised=20
now that he should never as a member of the Australian Amateur Boxing=20
Association have taken part in an Australian Boxing League tournament, =
and that=20
he regretted it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">The letter pointed out =
the=20
circumstances of his obligation to his employer, given the advertising =
that had=20
been undertaken. His father received a reply saying simply that the =
board had=20
considered his excuse but felt it really <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>was not relevant, and that =
Caine would=20
no longer be considered by the Amateur Boxing=20
Association.<o:p></o:p></U></B></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Caine's father has =
attempted to=20
ring the association on a number of occasions but cannot get a hearing. =
One of=20
the reasons for that could have been, of course, that Arthur Tunstall =
was=20
overseas and was not available.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">But Caine's problem has =
caused a=20
lot of concern in the Albury area and has been the subject of =
speculation in the=20
local media about his possibilities of representing Australia and the =
fact that=20
this avenue is now closed to him. I appeal to the Minister for Sport and =

Recreation. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I spoke to her early this =
morning=20
and informed her that I would raise this matter. I wonder whether she <B =

style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>could move on behalf of all =
the young=20
amateur boxers in this country</U></B> who want to be involved in <B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><U>the fine sport of amateur=20
boxing,</U></B> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">who do not understand the =
politics=20
and jealousies involved, who might initially become involved with the =
Amateur=20
Boxing League only to find their opportunity to represent Australia is =
totally=20
cut off.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I wonder whether the =
Minister might=20
be able to make some effort on behalf of my constituent, Caine =
Melbourne, and=20
also on behalf of all those young Australians who would just like the=20
opportunity to represent their country in the future. I know that is =
quite a=20
task and that many have tried in the past, but the Australian Amateur =
Boxing=20
Association is very fixed in its views and will not give an opportunity =
to=20
anyone who belongs to the league. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Such jealousy is very =
stupid. I=20
wonder whether they could work together for the sake of young people in =
the=20
sport. I hope the Minister might be able to help in some way in this=20
regard.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Mr AMERY (Mount Druitt - =
Minister=20
for Agriculture) [6.37]:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I will make sure that the =

representations made by the honourable member for Albury are passed on =
to the=20
Minister for Sport and Recreation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">The issue he has raised =
comes as=20
somewhat of a surprise to me, that jealousies exist between boxing =
organisations=20
and associations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Such jealousies have =
plagued the=20
sport overseas in the professional arena.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">A former Minister for =
Sport,=20
Michael Cleary, brought in legislation to clear up the New South Wales =
boxing=20
associations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Debate on that =
legislation=20
expressed the hope of resolving much of the jealousy and rivalry that=20
unfortunately afflicts boxing at both amateur and professional=20
levels.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I hope that the Minister =
will be=20
able to negotiate on behalf of the honourable member's=20
constituent.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">It is sad that a person's =
chance to=20
represent Australia and bring home a medal for the sake of our country =
could be=20
hampered by rivalry or jealousy between boxing=20
organisations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">The honourable member has =
made an=20
excellent point.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></B></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B=20
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">I am sure the Minister =
will do all=20
she can to assist in this =
matter.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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